that and the paycheck. an american tragedy. the brutal killing of another black man at the hands of law

enforcement has the country asking once again when does this end? >> they have got to change and reform. >> president biden said it best. we must pass the jogeorge floyd police reform act. donald trump is back on the campaign trail. >> we'll take back the white house. >> will it be enough to jump start the flagging third bid for the white house? and follow the money. >> what is the source of the 500k considered a personal loan on -- >> excuse me. pardon me. thank you. >> new revelations raised fresh questions as to who funded george santos' campaign. hello and welcome to "inside politics sunday." he was a new father start agnew life in a new city and now

29-year-old tyre nichols is gone. veterans described the assault unlike anything they have seen. more than an hour of several recordings showing what was supposed to be a traffic stop became a brutal beating. we will not show you that video this morning but what it does show is officers dragging nichols from the car within seconds of the stop. assaulting him and beating him. nichols pled with officers i i'm just trying to get home. the swift action taken against the officers has been praised by many, including the family attorney ben crump. >> no longer can you tell us we got to wait six months to a year even though we got a video with

evidence of the excessive force and the crime. we now have the blueprint, america. we won't accept less going forward. we won't have black officers treated differently than white officers. >> here president biden called the video a painful reminder of the fear, trauma and exhaustion black and brown americans experience every day and he spoke with nichols' mother and delivered this direct message for all to hear. >> my condolences and told her i would be making a case to the congress to pass the george floyd act to get this under control. i can only do so much at the federal level. >> let's discuss all of this with cnn's david chalian and

others. thank you for joining us this morning. wes, especially to you on this particular morning which feels like deja vu. i was going to watch this video after covering this all week and decided against it because it is not all that necessary to see a man beaten to death. the news this morning is that this unit that these five officers belonged to, it is called the scorpion unit. street crimes operations to restore peace in the neighborhoods is disbanded. the interesting thing is that this unite seemed to have been put in place in 2021 to do some kind of version of community policing which is a buzzword phrase we hear in washington all the time as a solution to the problems. >> i think the memphis police

would have you believe it's to do community policing but the hot spot policing flooding a neighborhood or high crime region with a lot of officers and attention under the theory most crime is committed by a small population of people, the units stood up across the country in response to the rising crime rates we have seen in the covid pandemic, likely to be stood up as the federal spending to increase police officers. really we have seen a big push to put more officers on the street like the so-called scorpion unit. >> the police chief here is such an interesting figure, a first black woman to be chief of police in that city in memphis, also known to be something of a reformer. i want to play what she testified to back in 2020. >> as an african american woman

i can attest to the existence of discriminatory policys that are a haunting reality. it is critical that we first acknowledge the pressing need for a wholistic approach to change and then begin the process to map the way forward toward policing reimagined. >> i mean, david, it seems to underscore how difficult this all is in putting someone in that position that talks about this issue of so-called police reform. it doesn't stop the incidents from happening. >> it is hard to imagine how you can legislate a solution to a total lack of regard for humanity. i know you didn't watch it but it is very difficult to come up with a legislative solution to the horrific actions we saw. doesn't mean there won't be continued efforts at reform.

how do you solve a problem with human beings not recognizing the humanity of someone else? by the way, charged to serve and protect. even talking about that unit. she the police chief did a quick 180 on this. >> on friday. >> on friday. and then very quickly turned around with the disbanding of it. >> you wrote police reform alone won't stop another george floyd from being murdered. you were right. also an element of this, the race of the cops has become such a political hotbed but the issue to me is the stop in the first place. why was he stopped? >> we don't have satisfying information about this. i think it will be as the criminal proceedings play out

months into years to get the full explanation of how from the officers' perspective how this began. but looking at memphis it's a department that did types of things in reform. majority black officers with a black woman reformer police chief with a ban on no-knock warrants. de-escalation policies. every reform anyone could ever want and watched on the body cameras as the officers have done this and speaks to the limitations of the reforms we see. a big push from attorney ben crump is to renew efforts around the george floyd justice and policing act and contains important steps. it is also worth noting nothing in the act to prevent george floyd from being killed much less tyre nichols from being killed. we talk about very often band

aids over bullet holes. >> what you hear within the democratic party is a question what does it mean to make a community safer. from a political lens at the white house president biden is advocating for more police officers on the streets. a chunk of covid relief money. president biden's viewpoint has been that more cops on the streets makes communities safer. there's a debate about whether or not actually having more cops on the streets makes communities safer. >> you can make an argument maybe we wouldn't be talking about this if it were not statistics like this. take a look at the trajectory of the violent crime in memphis. look at that year 2021. right? that is a post-covid year when c.j. davis became the police chief and the scorpion unit came

into being so that's what democrats have to contend with while also wanting to address the real issues around policing. before you jump in, i want to make a note about what we hear on capitol hill. we have democrats speaking out. i want to highlight senator manchin's statement saying we must unit with one voice and use the positions of power and influence to make change and then senator tim scott part of the police reform efforts and to my ear looking around there have been some republican statements but not a ton. he says this was a man beaten by the power of the state. let it serve as a call to action

for lawmaker in our nation. the only way to bring light from darkness is to be united. he said he is stopped 18 times for being black but the party seems to be want to ignore it. >> absolutely. as you say democrats do know that they cannot embrace the sloganeering of the 2020 year. president biden is pushing away from demunfunding the police an the like. the typical kind of mainstream democratic responses to police brutality, diversifying police forces, this speaks to the shortcomings of those reforms. it is a question. the onus on the democratic party to speak to the deep rooted nature of this issue in policing an ento respond to the kind of

communities who are calling for what justice looks like and not a universal meaning of that i remember being in the loon at george floyd's memorial in 2020 and even in that time talking to people universally condemning the actions, sympathetic with what happened, they are not saying that means we must have less cops on the streets. americans are divided on the solution but united there's a deep rooted problem. >> as always the american people have more of a sense of nuance about the things than the elected leaders seem to at times. one more note. this was a largely peaceful weekend for protests and it is to the credit of officials in memphis, a testament to the effort to respond to the legitimate demands of the community.

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all right. he is back on the trail. 74 days since announcing his third bid for the white house former president trump has made his first 2024 campaign stop yesterday. his appearances in new hampshire and south carolina come as questions have been raised about what has been so far which is a very slow moving campaign. concerns that he addressed head on. >> they said he is not campaigning. this is like about a month ago when i announced. i said i got two years. they said he is not doing rallies. he is not campaigning. maybe he's lost that step. i'm more angry now and more

committed now than i ever was. >> for the record he announced closer to two months ago. what he chose to talk about would be very familiar to you. >> we're going to restore election integrity. we have a woke military that can't fight or win. sending people that are killers, murderers and rapists. go to new york. i'm the only one they go after. men encouraged to compete against women in sports. wind turbines are all made in china. >> alex burns of politico is back with us on the panel and so are the wind turbines. killing off the bird population which is a favorite of trump. this is clearly an attempt to jump start the campaign but

still low energy. >> it was. i think in that clip is a revealing moment saying he lost the step. i'm still really angry. it is not really the point here. right? i don't think anyone doubts that donald trump angry but question whether he is fully engaged to run as president. he is not. and whether he has something to say that's relevant to connect with first the primary electorate and then the broad american public and hearing him talk about how it is so fair and investigated in new york, i don't think he did wind turbines cause cancer, he sounds like a guy trying to do the 2016 thing at a smaller scale and less organic enthusiasm about it. i covered the campaign launch in

2015 and i remember there was a fascination with the spectacle of it but is he serious and really going to run and then in the end he did. >> i don't think we can really make any broad judgments based on what's happening right now but it does seem to me he is responding to the environment which is that other people are thinking about running. he responded to two of them yesterday. >> nikki hailey called me the other day to talk to me. i said, look. go by your heart. she publicly stated i would never against my president. florida was close. close closed the beach. >> by they he means ron desantis. >> he is searching for i think what you said a message that

isn't just let me revisit the greatest hits and no doubt to fill the void right now as the only declared presidential candidate and wants to set the terms of debate and making sure that it plays out on his terms. what is also different, he is a twice impeached former president facing a ton of legal peril. that by its nature no matter how much to dismiss it makes him a different donald trump than we have seen him before. >> what is the pitch to voters? >> i guess that america was great when he was president. he has been rehashing the old hits policywise but i think there are questions still about

whether or not -- i was curious what you said, alex. i think there's skepticism when he first ran but the thing that pauses me is nobody else has entered the field yet. there was enthusiasm for ron desantis before the midterms. he could speak to them in a more eloquent way. he has not officially entered. for now there seems to be a hesitation within the republican party. >> the uncomfort even with the reality of trump that he is not an easy person to run against. there has been real energy on the grassroots republican side over the speaker fight and a replacement of rnc chair and donald trump on the wrong side of both of those things.

from the perspective of the republican grassroots. not only a candidate to rehash old fights but the midterms seen as disappointing he is not speaking the same language and you have a disconnect with the establishment figure that is blame him, you also have a disconnect between donald trump and the republican grassroots which is currently motivated by things where he was on the opposite side of. >> i want to get back to why aren't there more republicans putting the name in the hat? an iowa conservative activist said i think it is a deal of who is going to break first and be the first announced candidate? then you will see others follow

suit. who will it be? are they waiting for desantis to get in? >> it reminds me of the movie where the bad guys run at bruce lee one ate a time and a collective action problem. the first guy will be in a brutal firefight with donald trump. ron desantis seems like he will take time. i do think there's a real risk on the part of the candidates to overthink this and find the right time to get in when at the end of the day to beat donald trump get in there and beat donald trump. >> there is no good solution to this. get in too early probably get a nickname and be out there. your neck out there for him to attack. >> i totally agree with that. same time it is not like it's a mystery. >> we all know what will happen. >> should be able to figure out

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wa auschwitz. anti-semitism is a plague in this nation and up to us to ensure this kind of tragedy is never to be seen again. >> just as a reminder george santos lied about being jewish and also lied about his grand parents escaping the holocaust. >> i seen how socialism destroys people's lives because my parents survived the holocaust. for people descendants of survivors of holocaust the names and paper work was changed. i don't carry the family last night. >> that is -- it is amazing. but it is just in the context of very sober and somber moment of holocaust remembrance. no shame. >> exactly. i actually had in my office the

house floor camera up and then i was like, oh no. he is not really going to do this at this point. no shame is one thing here but for all the distraction that is george santos, i do think the campaign finance piece os on because it is clear kevin mccarthy and house republicans are not interested in doing anything about santos but if indeed there is a criminal investigation into the campaign finances that emerges with an indictment that will change the calculus and kevin mccarthy's behavior one would imagine. keep our eyes on what's happening with his finances. >> the only thing that might change the calculus because the unwillingness on the house republican side is so high. george santos, the audacity is

stunning on every level. but i think also we see someone reveling in the newfound fame and a new type of congress when we think some figures are there for the serious business and there's for the unserious business to be a celebrity. >> on capitol hill you don't rescape the reporters. manu raju doing the lord's work trying to get answers from george santos. >> why did you amends -- >> no, no. i don't amend. don't report that i did because you know that every campaign hires fiduciaries. >> what was the source of the funds? what was the source of that money? why did you list the wrong name of the treasurer on the forms?

>> i will have a conversation with you when you become a better honest reporter. >> now, this is all good and fun until the feds come calling. >> right. and justice department investigation. totally changes the calculation. everything we have seen to date is relatively disingenuous and an era of poll iticians where ty lie. donald trump said george santos told whoppers yesterday. i agree with everyone at the table. nothing changes the calculation for house republican leadership unless there's an actual investigation. >> despite the fact that according to a new poll out this week his constituents want him to go. 64% of democrats, 49% of

republicans and 59% of independents, new york state voters, say he should resign. meanwhile, alex, this is kevin mccarthy responding to questions about why he won't do something, reallying in, to try to cordon off george santos. >> i try to stick by the constitution. the voters elected him to serve. if there's a concern let him move through that. he is part out republican conference. you know why i'm standing by him? his constituents voted for him. >> paul ryan said he was electriced but based on a fraudulent campaign it seems. >> here we are. so let him participate in the

business of the body. it is hard to make that argument trying to kick ilan omar off objecting to the world view. she was also elected by the constituents in minneapolis. if you take the view generally that the voters are the ultimate arbiters of this you need to stick to that. this is characteristic of kevin mccarthy to make decisions based on the short term calculus possible. but look. he needs that vote right now or thinks he does. he doesn't want a special election on long island but you are going to need to win that seat again in two years one way or another and if george santos strings you along and that's a bigger headache or if they see you coddling this guy who is an

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health of the economy. economists before the midterm said there are risks of a recession sometime in this calendar year. i think the president is correct. gdp numbers were strong but inflation is still objectively high. it is slowing but talking about 6.5 6.5%. anybody in the grocery store or buys a coffee knows that things are more expensive than a year ago. there's positive economic data points but risky given that the fed is still increasing interest rates. >> meanwhile there's a major changing of the guard inside the white house. ron klain white house chief of staff is leaving replaced by jeff zeints.

he helped fix health care.org. extremely wealthy and owns a bagel shop here in washington d.c. this is chuck schumer explaining. organized, focused and deliberate. the right person to lead the biden administration to ensure the american people see and feel the benefits of the new laws. this is the biden white house going with the plan to say next year and this year is implementing and governance and policy but there is a lot of p politics happening at the same time. >> the idea if you talk to folks inside the white house is put jeff zients in and the focus of others is getting president

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since taking over the republican national committee, rana mcdaniel has overseen the gop losing the house, losing the

senate, and losing the white house. and yet, on friday, top rnc members re-elected her for an historic fourth term. >> nothing we do is is more important than making sure that joe biden is a one-term president. but in order to do that, we have to be unified. we have to be unified in that effort. >> mcdaniel easily beat a credible challenger by earning 111 votes to dylan's 51 votes. conspiracy theorist my pillow ceo mike lindell got four. former president trump declined to pick a favorite in this contentious race, which ended up becoming a proxy war between the grassroots and the gop establishment, but he seemed pleased with the results and he congratulated mcdaniel on her, quote, big win. now, you were out there in california for all of this as it went down.

leading into this, things got really hot and really contentious between these two sides. and it would be probably, i think, honestly, a little confusing to people on the outside, really what the difference is, at the end of the day, between rana mcdaniel and hamit dylan and the my pillow ceo, but what did you see on the ground? >> it was an interesting battle lines forming between the three running mates. you had rana mcdaniel running for re-election. but you couldn't argue that she was the establishment figure. this is someone whose career had been made by donald trump. a lot of the people arguing against her included some pretty anti-trump figures. the support that came to back dylan was a mixture of people who both thought that mcdaniel was to blame for election losses, and some thought that she was not a credible figure going head to the 2024 primary. it was a kind of convolution of interest that led to the challenge against mcdaniel, but because this is a group that is

not really a grassroots focus group, they backed her in the face of that challenge. but there was universal fear at that event, that that was going to lead to kind of an outsider backlash. there was a universal fear at that event that going ahead in the primary, that they could be kind of making it easier for candidates, maybe not donald trump, but other candidates, to make the case that the republican party is not doing enough to infuse new blood. >> well, this infusion of new blood debate is just a continuation of something that the republicans have been dealing with. on capitol hill, they tried to get rid of kevin mccarthy, tried to get rid of mitch mcconnell, none of that worked. the republican party seems to be sticking with what they've been doing all along. >> well, look, i think to astead's point, i think this is the beginning of a process of challenge and trial for rana mcdaniel, not the end of that process. the fact that she got re-elected against this, you know, credible but significant underdog challenger in harmit dylan, i

have not seen a sitting party chair lose 55 votes in that kind of sitting before. i have also not seen a sitting party chair try to get a fourth term after losing in her previous three terms. you can draw the connection to the kevin mccarthy fight. that's a saga that is only just beginning. the republican party is in a phase of transition and internal tension and they are going to hash out what they really stand for and who's really in charge going into 2024. i think very, very notably, this last week, you were hearing ron desantis out publicly questioning whether rana mcdaniel is really a serious and credible independent stueward o the party. >> i think we need a change. i think we need to get some new blood in the rnc. i like what harmit dylan has said about getting the rnc out of d.c. i think it's going to be very difficult to energize people to want to give money, to want to volunteer their time with the rnc if they don't see a change in direction. >> what do you make of that,

chalian? is he trying to differentiate himself from trump by backing one of trump's former lawyers? >> i think it was a move where he thought, hey, if there is real payoff here at the end, and dylan somehow pulse puls us out, i'll look like the kingmaker. the downside isn't so bad. in fact, some people suggested to me, talking to them in the last week, perhaps he's seeding the ground a little bit that if he feels something is unfair in the adjudication of the process of 2024, he can point back to this kind of after moment. it's an opportunity to keep rana mcdaniel on the straight and narrow, perhaps, but it was a fascinating move, because to alex's point, ron desantis clearly wanted to embrace that agent of change mantel, as he's trying to straddle all of these pieces in the party and put together a potential presidential campaign. and it was just interesting that something as sort of inside as the rnc chair is where he thought he should start making that move.

>> and perhaps he had to have known he wasn't going to be a king maker in the situation, and yet he weighed in anyway, perhaps just to say that he's not afraid to do that, even when trump may be on the other side of it. but that's all we have time for today. that's it for "inside politics" sunday. coming up next, "state of the union" with jake tapper and dana bash. dana's guests include ilhan omar as well as the tyre ninlgs' family attorney, ben crump. thank you for sharing your sunday morning with us. have a g great day. inkle repair® smooths the look of fine lineses in 1-week, deep wrinkleles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogenana® new dove body wash with microbiome nutrient serum transfor the driest skin in 1 shower.

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